HCP #61: Grief, Gratitude, and Extinction, with Carolyn Baker

Carolyn Baker is a former psychotherapist and professor of psychology and history. She is also an author, and her most recent book, with Andrew Harvey, isĀ Saving Animals From Ourselves: Healing the Divine Animal Within. She talks with Eric about our connection to animals, how our deep-seated shame estranges us from the animal kingdom, coming to grips with extinction, and finding meaning in troubling times, among other things.