Episode 78: Systems Thinking, Gift Economies, Agonizing over Debt, and Investigating the Roots of the Stories We Tell Ourselves, with Charles Eisenstein

Charles EisensteinCharles Eisenstein has given talks around the world on a variety of topics, and is the author of the books Ascent of Humanity, Sacred Economics, and The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible, among other books. In our episode Charles and I talk about systems thinking, societal collapse, investigating the roots of the stories we tell ourselves, living in the gift economy, and about being trapped beneath debt, among other things.

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